BUTT Doesn’t Want to Play Along

February 16, 2009 in Online by Antonio Cerna | 9 comments

 

Fellow BUTT writers were interviewed by fellow BUTT favorite in an incestual BUTT-loving interview to celebrate BUTT’s 25th birthday. And guess what? BUTT is going straight in the next issue. That’s right folks. A straight issue featuring… wait for it… “straight dudes who bottom.” Well, back in Texas we call those guys closeted, but I guess here in fancy NYC things are different. But things are looking up, our favorite alterna-gay rag is hosting an alterna-gay pride event.  Here’s a  quote:

We just feel that there should be an alternative to Gay Pride the way it’s celebrated in New York, because so many people we know have absolutely no feeling of connection to the gay pride parade, and we think there should be an alternative.

Well La-Ti-Da. Good you you BUTT dudes. Now there will be an event in NYC were bespectacled, anorexic dudes in flannel can talk about each other behind each others backs over PBR and Erlend Øye….Oh wait… Don’t we have that already?

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  1. faggoting’s avatar

    faggoting on February 17, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    Why you hating on Butt?

  2. homoneurotic’s avatar

    homoneurotic on February 18, 2009 at 1:40 am

    not hating. only frustrated. sometimes we take our being gay for granted. rephrase. we take our freedom to be openly gay for granted.

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    homoneurotic on February 18, 2009 at 1:46 am

    sometimes, i think indie gays are more homophobic than their straight counterparts. outside of manhattan (outside of the insular brooklyn queer/art circles) there’s a world that doesn’t distinguish between an over-educated, butt-reading hipster gay man and rupaul.

  4. faggoting’s avatar

    faggoting on February 18, 2009 at 2:33 am

    Nah,

    I don’t think it’s homophobia, it’s not being gay in and of itself that is the problem. I think it’s just a repulsion to a baseless and and seemingly thoughtless culture that has been built on falsehoods that are marketed as universal. It’s against the mainstream, that is the real conflict. I never could or wanted to be like everyone else, you’d think gays would understand this better than anyone. So when they don’t…

    I think a lot of young men who are realizing their sexuality only have a few role models to identify with and many of them are big flaming faggots that represent only one tiny and not well cut facet of what it means to be gay in our western world. Magazines like BUTT have changed things, anytime someone questions the norm they are perceived as hostile. Let’s have some alternatives, change is good. I’m looking forward to a gay event sans fauxhawks and reality TV gossip.

  5. homoneurotic’s avatar

    homoneurotic on February 18, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    i’m sorry babe. but if you’re looking for intellectual stimulation go to the paris review, or the atlantic, or granta, or the believer even — not butt.

    and i’ll stake money on the fact that at this butt soiree you’ll find plenty of faux hawks and reality tv chit chat.

    there’s no difference between butt and out magazine as far as intellect is concerned.

    if straight bottoms are what defines alternagay it’s homophobic…

  6. homoneurotic’s avatar

    homoneurotic on February 18, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    my friend told me recently: “funny how cosmopolitan can mean provincial” and that’s what i thought when i read the interview.

  7. deadpix3l’s avatar

    deadpix3l on February 18, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    Ok, so what are we really talking about when we use the term “straight bottom”?

    Are we talking about

    A.) Guys that are in the closet and can’t bring themselves to identify as gay because of their own internalized homophobia

    B.) Guys that identify as straight but don’t mind occasionally having sex with other men

    C.) Guys that identify as straight and almost exclusively have sex with women who also happen to enjoy putting things up their arse.

    So option A is a pretty bad situation and that is something that we should try to combat. However, I don’t see a problem with options B and C. I don’t see any inherent problem with a magazine like Butt writing about these guys.

    The whole point of an event like Gay Pride is to reinforce the visibility of gays, lesbians and the transgendered. Pride parades will important so long as there are people in the closet. And in the same way that it is ok for every swishy kid to put on a pair of heels and work it, it should also be ok for guys who identify as straight to bottom. I don’t think it makes a great deal of sense to eschew either idea.

  8. Rick’s avatar

    Rick on February 18, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    Nice little tempest going here.

    It’s hard to know without seeing the BUTT issue in question what these guys think they mean by identifying as “straight bottoms.” Maybe it’s ironic play with labels, like “Catholic atheist.” As I read him, Homoneurotic isn’t denying that mainstream cosmopolitan gay gulture is commercialized or constrictive in the roles it offers. At the same time, if “straight bottom” is an identity that is reacting against the tiresome menu of choices that march in a Pride parade, it’s also a reaction only possible within the metropolitan queer culture it is reacting against.

    Unless it’s ironic or joking, “straight bottom” would seem to have to mean a guy who likes fucking women and getting fucked by men. Fine. How is that an identity, though? Not sure I know. But granting that it is, I have to agree that although it may be a welcome, liberating rejection of normative faggot roles in NYC, outside of a few square miles where such a rejection makes sense, it’s a phrase that either would be a cover for closet case or a non-identity, where the freedom to enjoy such a non-identity or to play with labels in that way is something of a luxury.

  9. faggoting’s avatar

    faggoting on February 18, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    Homo,

    Who said anything about it being intellectual? I didn’t. I just don’t care about all the “gay” things that as a gay man I don’t really like. How many gay magazines will publish a photo of Stephen Merrit in the nude? Or get Helmut Lang to contribute portraits of his toes?

    And I think you’re looking too much into the “straight bottom” thing, they briefly mention it and I think it’s to illustrate the full scale of people who are homosexual, bisexual, or heterosexual yet don’t feel the need to define their identity by any one culture pertaining to a sexual preference.

    I don’t think the guys at BUTT have any problem with “fagging out” (as I like to call it), I think they’d just prefer if we were smarter about it, a little less banal.